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10 Questions for Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry answered by Rob Horrocks

1. In your view, what is the current state of the region’s “Independent Music Industry?”

Good. When I recall my gig going of ten years ago compared to what it is now a broad grin creeps across my face. People are talking about the music in this city more than ever and the talent is there.

2. What do you think are it’s immediate needs with reference to the areas that you are most familiar with?

Live booking agents.

3. As far as the region’s “Independent Music Industry” is concerned, what do you think shows the greatest potential for the next few years?

I have a lot of time for Marketing Birmingham. They should focus on Marketing Birmingham Music – past and present.

4. In recent years, there has been a range of initiatives and projects designed to support the development of music in Birmingham. Can you list 5 projects or initiatives that you think have proved beneficial to the “Independent Music Industry?”

The Birmingham Music Network

Barry Tomes sessions at the library

UKTI/Business link projects (Sonar visit)

Gigbeth – although not perfect I hate being negative about this and prefer to look at what was good about it. Learning lessons is beneficial.

BCU media and communications course offering a music industry option and the music research climate at BCU generally.

The rise of the Supersonic festival. I do a lot of business at that event as it brings people to the city – agents, journalists, potential fans etc

A quick mention to the Birmingham Music section in Central Library and the excellent resources at the library generally. I spend a lot of time there.

5. Can you list any projects or initiatives that you think have proved “of little use or benefit” to the “Independent Music Industry?”

http://www.Birminghamusic.com

6. With regard to your answers to questions 4 and 5, do you think Birmingham should continue to pursue the idea of more initiatives and projects designed to support the development of music in Birmingham?

Having benefited from some of these initiatives my initial answer is yes. Support for the music industry is a developing thing. We have to try new approaches and I give my thoughts on what those approaches might be in answers to later questions.

My alternative answer is that music industries have developed outside of initiatives and funding through the tenacity of the highly motivated and talented individuals who are able to learn, adapt and fight for every success they attain. Sometimes you have to remember that the music industry and the rewards it has brought came about via a messy process of greed, hard work, shady deals, more hard work, broken dreams, unrewarded hard work, nervous breakdowns, bankruptcy, excess and benefit fraud.

I don’t know how helpful this point is but the punk in me wants to be sure someone makes it.

7. If you could make any changes to, or include any new ideas for, any “strategy for supporting the development of music in Birmingham” what would your top priorities be?

I would focus on projects with tangible outputs.

8. If you were given the task of evaluating whether a project or initiative had been successful, what would you suggest as the best indicators of success, failure, benefit or disaster for the “Independent Music Industry?”

Income generation, product, hours of delivery/skills attained, jobs created. If you are evaluating an industry then the indicators must surely be the tangible outputs of that industry.

The intangible outputs – the aspirations raised, the creative climate fostered and the planted seeds are difficult to evaluate and so we must assume that they follow from the outputs which not only can be measured but are the purpose of the industry.

9. As far as your knowledge or understanding of the region’s “Independent Music Industry” is concerned, what are it’s greatest strengths, and what are it’s greatest weaknesses?

Strengths
Heritage
The diverse population
Geographical location
Talent

Weaknesses

10. If you could do anything to “support the development of music in Birmingham” what would you do and why would you choose to do that?

Grants for venues, individuals, and businesses. Small amounts of money that help people get things set up. I would favour that over projects which try to be high profile. I think the legacy of a small amount of money to someone who works hard and needs a small break could be greater than a big project.

National bodies run initiatives far better than anything that has come from BCC. I have often thought how helpful it would be to get help accessing those schemes. Rather than setting up a new scheme getting help from BCC consultants to access an existing scheme might be a better route.

Tour support grants – record labels support their artists to get out there. Having spent a great deal of my time trying to get my band out of this city I would love to be supported in that endeavour – both getting the gigs in the first place and covering the short fall in the budget.

Rob Horrocks

The Music Network was contacted in January 2010 by a group drawn from Birmingham City Council and the Arts Council England to begin to determine an overview of the current state, needs and potential of the “Independent Music Industry” in Birmingham.

The Music Network invites people with an interest or active role within Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry to answer 10 questions. If you wish to get involved read 10 Questions for Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry and send your completed responses by email to: info at birminghammusicnetwork.com – Thank You.

Simon Howes has also created an easy to use google survey for these questions here too.

All completed questions will be published here unless you state otherwise. Please be sure to include your full Name and any links to your website or blog so you can be credited in full as the author of the response. Views from all sides are sought so don’t be afraid to speak your mind. We all may learn something.

10 Questions for Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry answered by Andy Derrick

1. In your view, what is the current state of the region’s “Independent Music Industry?”

The people that work hard, network effectively and know the value of helping others are doing well by diversifying into other areas and applying their skills and knowledge to allied industries.

2. What do you think are it’s immediate needs with reference to the areas that you are most familiar with?

There is an element of cronyism, especially in the areas of Jazz where certain cliques have evolved and only seem to help others from within that clique.  An emphasis on reaching out to others beyond your normal circle of contacts and perhaps in other styles of music and other parts of the region will help build and share the knowledge that people have battled to build up.

3. As far as the region’s “Independent Music Industry” is concerned, what do you think shows the greatest potential for the next few years?

Small businesses that are able to capitalise on their skills bank to offer a wider range of services to their customers.

4. In recent years, there has been a range of initiatives and projects designed to support the development of music in Birmingham. Can you list 5 projects or initiatives that you think have proved beneficial to the “Independent Music Industry?”

No

5. Can you list any projects or initiatives that you think have proved “of little use or benefit” to the “Independent Music Industry?”

Gigbeth – too ambitious and too wide in genres to effectively pull in an audience.  It was trying to become the Edinburgh Festivals from the start without any evolutionary period. Was it a conference, education project, live music festival or what?

Digital Central – hamstrung from the start by the obligatory waste of time mapping the regions industry.  Some initiatives worked well like the venue development scheme, but it needed to be bigger and longer.

Creative Launchpad – I both referred clients to this project and used it myself.  The information is public domain and not particularly well explained or collated.  It seemed an expensive way to provide advice – a well put together website and helpline would have worked better.

Arts Fest – sold to performers as well worth the opportunity to perform (for free) because of the profile it would lend to their live music product.  I’ve yet to hear of anyone securing any useful opportunities as a result of appearing at this festival.

6. With regard to your answers to questions 4 and 5, do you think Birmingham should continue to pursue the idea of more initiatives and projects designed to support the development of music in Birmingham?

The projects all fail in one particular regard – the lack of industry expertise involved at the initial planning stages.  Other problems include too much rushing to complete the project as it usually starts late.  Lastly, there is never any criteria for success built into these projects.

7. If you could make any changes to, or include any new ideas for, any “strategy for supporting the development of music in Birmingham” what would your top priorities be?

Convene a panel of serious music industry individuals with a track record of activity and success from across the genre and skill spectrum to develop a series of objectives for a long term plan (10-15 years) and a series of projects that can initially support these objectives over the next five years.  Then develop a rigourous success criteria and accountability system to ensure that the objectives are met and that the projects deliver what is asked of them.

8. If you were given the task of evaluating whether a project or initiative had been successful, what would you suggest as the best indicators of success, failure, benefit or disaster for the “Independent Music Industry?”

An industry mentor should be assigned to ensure that the objectives of a project were being met and that any benefit occurring can be effectively measured.  In the case of failure, an investigation as to why and how best to learn from mistakes, support future action and castigate individuals when failures can be attributed.

9. As far as your knowledge or understanding of the region’s “Independent Music Industry” is concerned, what are it’s greatest strengths, and what are it’s greatest weaknesses?

The legacy of skills and knowledge from decades of music making and production is our greatest strength and these are not being used.  The weaknesses are that academics and individuals with a lack of real world experience, second hand knowledge and entrenched positions have the ears of the funders.

10. If you could do anything to “support the development of music in Birmingham” what would you do and why would you choose to do that?

I would establish a committee of music industry local experts to judge who should be awarded direct financial support for music business activity in the region in the form of small grants (£100, £500 and £1000).

Andy Derrick – Independent Music Industry Professional and Blogger
www.andyderrick.co.uk

The Music Network was contacted in January 2010 by a group drawn from Birmingham City Council and the Arts Council England to begin to determine an overview of the current state, needs and potential of the “Independent Music Industry” in Birmingham.

The Music Network invites people with an interest or active role within Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry to answer 10 questions. If you wish to get involved read 10 Questions for Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry and send your completed responses by January 24th 2010 by email to: info at birminghammusicnetwork.com – Thank You.

Simon Howes has also created an easy to use google survey for these questions here too.

All completed questions will be published here unless you state otherwise. Please be sure to include your full Name and any links to your website or blog so you can be credited in full as the author of the response. Views from all sides are sought so don’t be afraid to speak your mind. We all may learn something.

10 Questions for Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry.

The Music Network has been contacted by a group drawn from Birmingham City Council and the Arts Council England to begin to determine an overview of the current state, needs and potential of the “independent music industry” in Birmingham.

The Music Network invites people with an interest or active role within Birmingham’s Independent Music Industry to answer 10 questions.

Completed questions will be published at http://www.birminghammusicnetwork.com unless you state otherwise. Please include your Name, biography or information about who you are and what you do, and links to your website or blog. You will be credited as the author of the response. Views from all sides are sought so don’t be afraid to speak your mind. We may learn something.

Please note, as with all funded projects, if you don’t voice your opinion a decision will be made on your behalf without any reference to you and you may not benefit from any strategy that gets agreed and put into action.

Here are 10 open questions. If you wish to get involved, please send your completed responses by email to: info at birminghammusicnetwork.com – Thank You.

Questions:

1. In your view, what is the current state of the region’s “Independent Music Industry?”

2. What do you think are it’s immediate needs with reference to the areas that you are most familiar with?

3. As far as the region’s “Independent Music Industry” is concerned, what do you think shows the greatest potential for the next few years?

4. In recent years, there has been a range of initiatives and projects designed to support the development of music in Birmingham. Can you list 5 projects or initiatives that you think have proved beneficial to the “Independent Music Industry?”

5. Can you list any projects or initiatives that you think have proved “of little use or benefit” to the “Independent Music Industry?”

6. With regard to your answers to questions 4 and 5, do you think Birmingham should continue to pursue the idea of more initiatives and projects designed to support the development of music in Birmingham?

7. If you could make any changes to, or include any new ideas for, any “strategy for supporting the development of music in Birmingham” what would your top priorities be?

8. If you were given the task of evaluating whether a project or initiative had been successful, what would you suggest as the best indicators of success, failure, benefit or disaster for the “Independent Music Industry?”

9. As far as your knowledge or understanding of the region’s “Independent Music Industry” is concerned, what are it’s greatest strengths, and what are it’s greatest weaknesses?

10. If you could do anything to “support the development of music in Birmingham” what would you do and why would you choose to do that?

Simon Howes has created an easy to use google survey for these 10 questions here

(The term “Region” as far as these questions are concerned refers to Birmingham or the geographic area Birmingham City Council works within.)

I have also quoted a number of existing articles below. I have suggested that the group should read through each of the articles and consider the content carefully.

Can anyone suggest any other existing articles that the group should read and consider that may have been omitted?

A DIGITAL AND CREATIVE INDUSTRIES ACTION PLAN https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2008/03/06/a-digital-and-creative-industries-action-plan/

The people who control the Funding are damaging the Creative Industries in The West Midlands by Anthony J Hughes https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2008/06/12/the-people-who-control-the-funding-are-damaging-the-creative-industries-in-the-west-midlands/

Birmingham Twinned with Your Darkest Thought? by Mark Iron Man Records https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2008/11/10/birmingham-twinned-with-your-darkest-thought/

A Year later – Perspectives on the West Midlands Music Industry – Scott Roe, Solar Creations https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2008/11/10/a-year-later-perspectives-on-the-west-midlands-music-industry-scott-roe/

What is your view of the West Midlands’ music industry? by Mark Iron Man Records https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/02/03/what-is-your-view-of-the-west-midlands%E2%80%99-music-industry/

A Vision for the Music Industry in the West Midlands by Clare Edwards June 2008 https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/02/03/a-vision-for-the-music-industry-in-the-west-midlands-by-clare-edwards-june-2008/

Another view of the West Midlands’ music industry and FUNDING by Andy Ward  https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/02/10/andy-ward-another-view-of-the-west-midlands%E2%80%99-music-industry-and-funding/

Countercultural Capital & the Creative Economy – How do 1990s DiY Music ‘Entrepreneurs’ talk about the contemporary music business?” by Charlotte Bedford 2008 https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/06/04/countercultural-capital-the-creative-economy-how-do-1990s-diy-music-%E2%80%98entrepreneurs%E2%80%99-talk-about-the-contemporary-music-business-by-charlotte-bedford-2008/

Funding the Creative Industries by Andy Derrick 13th Feb 2009 https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/02/13/funding-the-creative-industries-by-andy-derrick-13th-feb-2009/

The Scottish Music Industry Association(SMIA) – launched at Go North conference https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/07/21/the-scottish-music-industry-associationsmia-launched-at-go-north-conference/

Redefining the Music Industry – A public consultation on the future shape, needs, direction and ambitions of the music industry. https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/09/10/redefining-the-music-industry-a-public-consultation-on-the-future-shape-needs-direction-and-ambitions-of-the-music-industry/

National Survey and Mapping Exercise assessing provision & scope of music support work across UK 2009 https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/09/22/national-survey-and-mapping-exercise-assessing-provision-scope-of-music-support-work-across-uk-2009/

How does Iron Man Records choose it’s artists and how does it promote them? https://birminghammusicnetwork.com/2009/11/28/how-does-iron-man-records-choose-its-artists-and-how-does-it-promote-them/

your comments please…..

cheers Mark – The Music Network, January 2010

The Music Network – 4pm Thursday 28th January 2010, Birmingham TEE, Millennium Point. All Invited

It has been suggested that Birminghamusic.com spent a lot of money and is no longer running. Creative Insight tried and failed. Creative lauchpad came and went. The Learning and Skills council had a go and gave up, so did the Chambers of Commerce, Mentoring projects got set up and then scrapped, music festivals, seminars, workshops and endless consultations have been and gone, compilation cds have been and gone, websites have been built and taken down, networks were set up and taken apart, even the Universities are at it, but how long will it last? People talk about “all this money.” …..”all this money” to help the creative industries, “all this money” to help struggling musicians in the region, all this help for all these different things, all these schemes to enhance the region’s music industry. And where has it got us? What has it cost? What has been achieved? Where is the evaluation? Will anyone be held to account? Does anyone care? Its a grim history. The place is full of “Music consultants” but still nothing appears to be happening. Or is it? Don’t panic. There’s probably nothing you can do apart from shut up and be happy. Or is there? These funded projects have absolutely nothing to do with you. So rejoice, the good news is this.

The Music Network is open to all on Thursday 28th January 2010 4pm til 6pm at Millennium Point, Curzon Street, Birmingham, B4 7XG.

The Music Network, Birmingham, 2008

If you have any involvement in music, come and talk about what you’re up to and meet some new people.

The Music Network organises a NETWORKING EVENT on the last Thursday of each month, for the benefit of music related businesses in the West Midlands region. These Events are not about telling you what to do or how to do it, they’re not part of a wider academic research project and this is not some funded project after your name or address, and you’re not part of a wider marketing excercise.

These Networking events are about all things music in the region. They’re about helping you to teach yourself how to do it, by yourself, for yourself and encourages you to share the knowledge with others so they can do the same.  If you are a musician, work with musicians, represent musicians, have involvement with the music industry, or are looking to make new contacts the meeting will be useful.

If you have news to report, a presentation to give, an event to promote, any new points for discussion, a pitch to make, business cards or flyers to hand round, an appeal for help, advice or guidance or even if you just want the free tea and biscuits and some quality entertainment…you are all invited.

You can also post in by email any news or gig dates or press release information for inclusion on the website and for distribution through the mailing list and RSS feed. More details on the website.

There will be luxury chocolate biscuits and good coffee for all. There’s food and drink afterwards supplied by the creative networks too. Please pass this invite on to Musicians you know or anyone else who you think may benefit. Jokers and time wasters need not apply.

WARNING: THE MUSIC SCENE IS NOT THE MUSIC SCENE. 

If you want to join a real conversation and get ahead with your own music…..and if you choose not to involve yourself in another botched scheme that pays for everything except anything useful for you and your music…..

…..You know what to do:  https://birminghammusicnetwork.com Started in 2000 and still going on a budget you can stick under a glass. Funded Project? What Funded project? Learn to like it. Come and Join us.

The Music Network Monthly Meeting will be at Major Key Studios on December 3rd

There will be no meeting this month of The Music Network at the TEE.

The Music Network Meeting will now be taking place on December 3rd at 4pm at Major Key Studios.

The Music Network Meeting scheduled to take place on Thursday 26th November 2009 at the TEE has been moved to Major Key Studios as Creative Networks will not be meeting again until February and we have decided to honour repeated requests for a change of location. So, for those of you still confused the details are as follows

The Music Network

Meeting date: Thursday December 3, 2009
Time: 4:00 pm – 6:00 pm
Location: Major Key Studios, The Public, New Street, West Bromwich, West Midlands, B70 7PG

The Music Network is open to all

Come and Join us, 4pm til 6pm at Major Key Studios, The Public, New Street, West Bromwich, West Midlands, B70 7PG Tel: 0121 533 7137

If you have any involvement in music, come and talk about what you’re up to and meet some new people.

The Music Network organises a NETWORKING EVENT on the first Thursday of each month, for the benefit of music related businesses in the West Midlands region.

If you are a musician, work with musicians, represent musicians, have involvement with the music industry, or are looking to make new contacts the meeting will be useful to you.

If you have news to report, a presentation to give, an event to promote, any new points for discussion, a pitch to make, business cards or flyers to hand round, an appeal for help, advice or guidance or even if you just want the free tea and biscuits and some quality entertainment…you are all invited.

http://www.birminghammusicnetwork.com
http://blackcountrymusicnetwork.wordpress.com

Warning: It’s not about computers or playing with social networks, its about talking to people face to face and Music.

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